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Awesome detecive work, thanks for sharing this!

Patrick Abbott's avatar

I love getting down to the actual sources. It's like an old school adventure game.

S. L. Linton's avatar

As soon as I saw "an Italian hospital," I knew it had to be Padre Pio's hospital. Thanks for sharing this! I have Paul Thigpen's book but have yet to read it.

T.J. Haines's avatar

I still say aliens don’t exist 😎

Patrick Abbott's avatar

Well, you have as much evidence as Padre Pio did for your counter hypothesis. :) The history of the Church discussion over the possibility, and what it *could* mean for the faith *if* aliens were real are fascinating topics though I love to research and discuss

T.J. Haines's avatar

Oh yeah, totally with you. Then most intriguing component to his claim is that ‘they are not fallen’. I’d ask why he supposes that. But it’s interesting that he considered that (I did too, in my argument) because I think most don’t even consider that question. It’s an important part of the mystery.

Patrick Abbott's avatar

It is an interesting question. Maybe he hoped that other creatures would love God more than are fallen ancestors? Interestingly, of the two known spiritual creatures, homo sapiens sapiens and the angelic, both had Falls. All humanity fell and a third of the angels. So unless he had insight which he never stated he had, it is a mystery why he would have thought so.

KC's avatar

Fantastic research, Patrick! Well done!

Patrick Abbott's avatar

Thanks. I love deep research.

Bridget Spitznagel's avatar

> And it’s available for free on the Internet Archive.

*applause*. Every so often I remember to make that site a small donation for the times when I have been looking for a very specific rabbit and they pull it out of their hat.

Patrick Abbott's avatar

The Internet Archive is a national treasure and should be protected at all cost.

Patrick Abbott's avatar

Yeah, that's what I initially thought, too. But Daniel O'Connor is so poor in his research skills he botched his coverup attempt.